Thanks for the update. Would you happen to know were we could find the raw footage of the body cam? I have not had much luck only able to find news pieces which are highly edited.
We were unable to find the raw body camera footage. You're correct—just about all of the clips, including news segments, edited the footage into a kind of highlights reel. There must be multiple cameras, too. It's unclear why the Franklin Park Police Department or Village of Franklin Park wouldn't just post the footage to a central page, given the amount of interest. —Kevin Gosztola
Yeah I find it a little hard to believe too as I drive around that area often and you can look around and see quite a few exterior security cameras in the vicinity of it that nobody else has released more footage from the other side of the car too.
I would like to see another eclipse just so I can get the full context of what was said.
One thing I would like to point out though is that even though the agent did state that he was fine that is really not uncommon post a accident or traumatic event. I can take hours to days for the effects of an incident to present themselves medically.
The effect of the incident was that the officer killed a man. As for the officer, it's rather clear in the video that he shrugged off what happened like it was just another day on the job, even though it was apparently the first time he discharged his weapon since joining ICE. So, no, I don't think there's any evidence that he was traumatized. That officer's a hero to many in ICE. —Kevin Gosztola
I would take a look at some applicable video out there as to the affects of teams and shock post a event before assuming he was not in that video suffering from both or ethier.
I am not denying a person died that is not in anyway contested. I do think you lack a understanding of what these agents and law enforcment in general go through on a daily basis and how that forms the way they handle situations and internalize.
My comment is more to point out that it can be reasonably explained with proof why he could have seemed so calm. There is plenty of video evidence out there of other officers in incidents such as this and their condition post. I am only saying this as the article implies one side and I think it important to also look I to what else could have been going on in that video and his condition at the time.
Can you provide proof of a comment such as he is a hero to many agents or is that just your personal feeling on the matter? That's a very generalizeing statement. Not much better then some of the really bad comments made on the other side of the argument.
The article that Sara wrote is one-sided. It's an editorial. She is under no obligation ethically or professionally to represent the side of DHS or the ICE officer, which are well known. Both believe killing Silverio Villerio Gonzalez was justified. What's in the body camera footage is a small part of the inconvenient truth that the government would prefer people ignore. —Kevin Gosztola
If you just want to build a opinion on emotions and not facts that is you total right to do so. I figured you better then that from you other articles, online publications, and the book which is now on my future reads.
You built you career in uncovering the truth through fact based research. It is noble how you worked to uncover what happened with JA. But you cannot uncover truth but omitting facts to better strengthen you side of anargument.
Can you specify what that inconvient truth is in the camera footage. It is not very obvious unless you are willing to ignore well defined and researched medical and psychological facts.
What is not in the body cam footage is what happened in the driver's side of the car. That is the missing piece of the puzzle that could really push this to one side or the other one it's justification.
Thank you for shedding more light on this sad and unjust killing.
Thanks for the update. Would you happen to know were we could find the raw footage of the body cam? I have not had much luck only able to find news pieces which are highly edited.
We were unable to find the raw body camera footage. You're correct—just about all of the clips, including news segments, edited the footage into a kind of highlights reel. There must be multiple cameras, too. It's unclear why the Franklin Park Police Department or Village of Franklin Park wouldn't just post the footage to a central page, given the amount of interest. —Kevin Gosztola
Yeah I find it a little hard to believe too as I drive around that area often and you can look around and see quite a few exterior security cameras in the vicinity of it that nobody else has released more footage from the other side of the car too.
I would like to see another eclipse just so I can get the full context of what was said.
One thing I would like to point out though is that even though the agent did state that he was fine that is really not uncommon post a accident or traumatic event. I can take hours to days for the effects of an incident to present themselves medically.
The effect of the incident was that the officer killed a man. As for the officer, it's rather clear in the video that he shrugged off what happened like it was just another day on the job, even though it was apparently the first time he discharged his weapon since joining ICE. So, no, I don't think there's any evidence that he was traumatized. That officer's a hero to many in ICE. —Kevin Gosztola
I would take a look at some applicable video out there as to the affects of teams and shock post a event before assuming he was not in that video suffering from both or ethier.
I am not denying a person died that is not in anyway contested. I do think you lack a understanding of what these agents and law enforcment in general go through on a daily basis and how that forms the way they handle situations and internalize.
My comment is more to point out that it can be reasonably explained with proof why he could have seemed so calm. There is plenty of video evidence out there of other officers in incidents such as this and their condition post. I am only saying this as the article implies one side and I think it important to also look I to what else could have been going on in that video and his condition at the time.
Can you provide proof of a comment such as he is a hero to many agents or is that just your personal feeling on the matter? That's a very generalizeing statement. Not much better then some of the really bad comments made on the other side of the argument.
The article that Sara wrote is one-sided. It's an editorial. She is under no obligation ethically or professionally to represent the side of DHS or the ICE officer, which are well known. Both believe killing Silverio Villerio Gonzalez was justified. What's in the body camera footage is a small part of the inconvenient truth that the government would prefer people ignore. —Kevin Gosztola
If you just want to build a opinion on emotions and not facts that is you total right to do so. I figured you better then that from you other articles, online publications, and the book which is now on my future reads.
You built you career in uncovering the truth through fact based research. It is noble how you worked to uncover what happened with JA. But you cannot uncover truth but omitting facts to better strengthen you side of anargument.
Can you specify what that inconvient truth is in the camera footage. It is not very obvious unless you are willing to ignore well defined and researched medical and psychological facts.
What is not in the body cam footage is what happened in the driver's side of the car. That is the missing piece of the puzzle that could really push this to one side or the other one it's justification.