When people who work for the village have to have work done on their property and people are detained, maybe then they will actually start saying something instead of staying quiet like they always do on everything.
I have to be honest when I have had work done I have always asked for confirmation of the ability to legally work for all the folks who will be involved in the work at my house. In the end it cost more for the work as this does eliminate allot of options.
Had a friend that did not do this and ended up with legal trouble a undocumented worker fell from his roof passed away and then the lawsuits began. The reason it was a issue is the individual could not be legally insured or bonded under the company's policy doing the work.
Allot of folks think it is wrong to ask but after the issues I saw there it is just a thing I ask for before I will consider highiring someone.
They also could have been picking some one up at the public works or checking that all were legal to work.
I would highly doubt your going to get any official confirmation. Maybe drive down the street see if any one has a ring. You could door knock and ask if they could check to verify this claim.
I am thinking it is false just as have been the folks posting guns drawn and such. But we will see.
As corrected and updated, the ICE vehicle in question was actually using the EPPD's public safety drive. My source showed me photographs. We stand by it as confirmed. —Kevin Gosztola
Then more then likly they are checking in with them before beginning their daily tasks in the city. Would be curious to see what you able to discover on this.
Kevin the one issue I would say is the comment of intimidation. If that individual was following the vehicle and filming I would in all cases expect them to get out and document the vehicle following them.
We have seen in other areas folks go to extreme acts of violence at this point. It only makes sense they would document a vehicle following them.
I am thankful the folks in our township have not devolved to what has been seen else were.
if you willing to go to federal court and possibly face federal jail time for it that it is a personal choicce. But I think you all are trying to go a good route and not step out in front of vehicles and or block them. People following and blowing whistles are harmless but can air nieboors. I worry when folks decide it a good idea to step out infont of vehicles or worse.
I get it from what I have seen in Chicago. There have unarguable been excessive force issues in my opinion. There are some cases from the raw videos were the force was at par with the opposition. But there are definitely issues with deescilation techniques. This does not legally free up this doing it which we are starting to see cases rolling out now.
But here everything that has been released and that this new article is based off of has showed calm situations. Outside of the chase one but I am not sure if it was referenced or not. Folks who did not have correct documentation to work were taken into custody and those who have documentation to work did went back to work.
I know you are newer to town but this was not a uncommon thing from 2008 until covid to have happen. I had witnessed at least 3 myself in that time period In town when the new legislation started getting used for that border rule. I had not realized that is how they were doing it until recently when I came across the ACLU Info on it. I just figured it was folks pissed at a neighbor calling in there work crews. Prior to that the old grocery store super low would get hit once a year at least as would Armand's and biancalanas by immagration and customers agents. Most of my early jobs were the same case wherehouse work and such.
I do understand you a not a fan of the immagration laws and would like them changed. I do not see a route to that anytime in the near future but we will see what the next three year bring. I personally would like a better imagration system myself.
Hopefully the groups you posted can help them with the legal battle they will have ahead. Or at least help the family's trying to resolve the legal issues.
Hopefully folks are talking to kids about how to correctly deal with interactions with agents. I have heard some fairly disturbing things from friends with kids in the HS. Folks handing out some of the flyers , such as the ones shared in the community groups have told them certain action they should take.
A few parents I know have had to explain just show you id and move on. That arguing or running are not good ideas. Document and if you feel some right was violated reach out for legal help.
The advocate has done a good job providing legal and peaceful ways to help and protest. I have seen a increasing leaning towards violent rhetoric in the responses online in our community group and will moving forward not interact. I worry that my perspective is just stoking a already out of control fire. I am hopeful at least here there can be some dielect as there has been this far.
When people who work for the village have to have work done on their property and people are detained, maybe then they will actually start saying something instead of staying quiet like they always do on everything.
I have to be honest when I have had work done I have always asked for confirmation of the ability to legally work for all the folks who will be involved in the work at my house. In the end it cost more for the work as this does eliminate allot of options.
Had a friend that did not do this and ended up with legal trouble a undocumented worker fell from his roof passed away and then the lawsuits began. The reason it was a issue is the individual could not be legally insured or bonded under the company's policy doing the work.
Allot of folks think it is wrong to ask but after the issues I saw there it is just a thing I ask for before I will consider highiring someone.
An insider source said Elmwood parks public works let ICE use their property. Can you look into this?
We're looking into the social media posting that made this claim that public works "allowed them into their grounds." —Kevin Gosztola
They also could have been picking some one up at the public works or checking that all were legal to work.
I would highly doubt your going to get any official confirmation. Maybe drive down the street see if any one has a ring. You could door knock and ask if they could check to verify this claim.
I am thinking it is false just as have been the folks posting guns drawn and such. But we will see.
As corrected and updated, the ICE vehicle in question was actually using the EPPD's public safety drive. My source showed me photographs. We stand by it as confirmed. —Kevin Gosztola
Then more then likly they are checking in with them before beginning their daily tasks in the city. Would be curious to see what you able to discover on this.
Kevin the one issue I would say is the comment of intimidation. If that individual was following the vehicle and filming I would in all cases expect them to get out and document the vehicle following them.
We have seen in other areas folks go to extreme acts of violence at this point. It only makes sense they would document a vehicle following them.
I am thankful the folks in our township have not devolved to what has been seen else were.
We will not let our neighbors be abducted off our streets.
if you willing to go to federal court and possibly face federal jail time for it that it is a personal choicce. But I think you all are trying to go a good route and not step out in front of vehicles and or block them. People following and blowing whistles are harmless but can air nieboors. I worry when folks decide it a good idea to step out infont of vehicles or worse.
I get it from what I have seen in Chicago. There have unarguable been excessive force issues in my opinion. There are some cases from the raw videos were the force was at par with the opposition. But there are definitely issues with deescilation techniques. This does not legally free up this doing it which we are starting to see cases rolling out now.
But here everything that has been released and that this new article is based off of has showed calm situations. Outside of the chase one but I am not sure if it was referenced or not. Folks who did not have correct documentation to work were taken into custody and those who have documentation to work did went back to work.
I know you are newer to town but this was not a uncommon thing from 2008 until covid to have happen. I had witnessed at least 3 myself in that time period In town when the new legislation started getting used for that border rule. I had not realized that is how they were doing it until recently when I came across the ACLU Info on it. I just figured it was folks pissed at a neighbor calling in there work crews. Prior to that the old grocery store super low would get hit once a year at least as would Armand's and biancalanas by immagration and customers agents. Most of my early jobs were the same case wherehouse work and such.
I do understand you a not a fan of the immagration laws and would like them changed. I do not see a route to that anytime in the near future but we will see what the next three year bring. I personally would like a better imagration system myself.
Hopefully the groups you posted can help them with the legal battle they will have ahead. Or at least help the family's trying to resolve the legal issues.
Hopefully folks are talking to kids about how to correctly deal with interactions with agents. I have heard some fairly disturbing things from friends with kids in the HS. Folks handing out some of the flyers , such as the ones shared in the community groups have told them certain action they should take.
A few parents I know have had to explain just show you id and move on. That arguing or running are not good ideas. Document and if you feel some right was violated reach out for legal help.
The advocate has done a good job providing legal and peaceful ways to help and protest. I have seen a increasing leaning towards violent rhetoric in the responses online in our community group and will moving forward not interact. I worry that my perspective is just stoking a already out of control fire. I am hopeful at least here there can be some dielect as there has been this far.